Interview with Sean McLaughlin, 1st December 2016

Sean holding the BCW title aloft before a title defence. Credit to David Wilson for the photographs.

I met Sean McLaughlin a few months ago at WhatCulture Pro Wrestling after being introduced to the man by their then-press officer Suzie Kennedy. We talked and I got the information I needed to create a profile on him for our profile section. After some gentle badgering by Sean I eventually got round to creating it. Despite finding Sean incredibly friendly I was genuinely surprised at the popularity of his profile and as the number of views climbed Sean and I connected over silly banter to the point where I would now class him as a pal.
With that in mind when I realised he was going to be involved in the largest European wrestling show in my lifetime, Fear & Loathing IX, I asked him to take some pictures on the day and then chat to me about it at the next WCPW Loaded taping after the big show…

Neil Rogers – Were you refereeing the day before Fear and Loathing?
Sean McLaughlin – Aye I did the show at the Garage on the Saturday night, it was fantastic.
NR – Was that any different to a normal show, were people worried about picking up a niggle before the big show?
SM – It didn’t seem like it no, people seemed in high spirits, they were all excited about the next day.
NR – Was everyone who was at the show going to be at Fear and Loathing?
SM – No, there was a lot of the newer guys from Premier British Wrestish and Glasgow Pro Wrestling Asylum were there.
NR – Do you normally do the ICW tours or do you stick more to the Scottish based shows?
SM – I done the last two tours.
NR – Did you do Leicester?
SM – Yeah was a cracking show.
NR – Did you meet Martina the Session Moth?
SM – Aye fantastic aye.
NR – Well she was the first record holder (for most shares and views of her Calling Spots profile) then you came along and smashed it.
SM – Oh if I had known that I would have said!
NR – She’s going to be at one shortly.
SM – Oh I never really got a chance to talk to her. I refed her match, her and Kay Lee [Ray].

Friend of Calling Spots Martina The Session Moth recently made her debut for ICW

Friend of Calling Spots Martina The Session Moth recently made her debut for ICW

 

Martina is scheduled to wrestle at their next show at The Garage.

Martina is scheduled to wrestle at their next show at The Garage.

NR – How many times have you refed Kay Lee then with you guys being from the same area?
SM – Oh a good few times but she’s helped me a lot with feedback and stuff like that. She’s travelled, she’s all over, any chance I get to ref one of her matches is a blessing because I think she trusts me and I trust her working with her and I know if she’s not happy with something she will tell me and I’ll learn from it but we’ve not had that issue yet.
NRLittle Miss Roxxy made her debut on a show Kay Lee had booked but had to cancel to go over and make her NXT debut against Nia Jaxx so Roxxy made her debut, just over a year ago.
SM – I’ve not refed any of Roxxy’s stuff yet, I’d like to but not had a chance yet. She’s good, really talented.
NR – Yeah she is, I would think because her matches she usually ends up in awkward positions it might be a bit difficult for you. She’s so tiny and so flexible she literally gets tied up in knots!
SM – I might be wrong but I’m pretty sure Lucy Cole worked her down here somewhere and Lucy Cole had good things to say about her and I was talking to Drake and I’m pretty sure he said Roxxy had nothing but good things to say about Lucy.
NR – I’ve never heard Roxxy say anything negative about anyone. So getting back to Fear and Loathing, did you have to get up early to make sure you had enough pants? *side note Sean has a recent habit of forgetting/ripping pants.
SM – What a stressful day man! So I woke up, I can’t remember what time but my girlfriend was working, she works in the city centre so I was like I need to go get trousers so I’ll drop you off. So I goes in, drops her off, town, city centre was jumping so I thought fuck that! Went to Tesco, didn’t have the trousers. Went to Asda got them, there were two pairs left, not even the right length, was short leg I wanted regular leg but I took them just in case. The night before at the show at the Garage I had refed the first match of the show I ripped them. Went home, had to iron my shirt and my suit it was a nightmare mate but it was all worth it.

The biggest show in Scottish wrestling history deserved an ironed shirt and a new pair of trousers (plus Sean had torn his the night before)

The biggest show in Scottish wrestling history deserved an ironed shirt and a new pair of trousers (plus Sean had torn his the night before)

Sean and his brother in stripes, ICW's head referee Thomas Kearns.

Sean and his brother in stripes, ICW’s head referee Thomas Kearns.

NR – Did you all wear suits last year because last year was a massive venue as well.
SM – Most people, not everyone wore a suit, I don’t think I’ll wear one next year. I can’t think that anything will top a few weeks ago, like excitement and everything I don’t think it will be topped. The show might but not the excitement I felt before I don’t think.
NR – I thought the show was great but because I’ve only been to Glasgow twice (Fear and Loathing eight and nine) eight was probably the best show I’ve ever been to, nine was great I but, without meaning to be negative it wasn’t as good as eight.
SM – Ah well as long as you both enjoyed it.
NR – There was no Grado entrance…
SM – For the sheer fact it was such a spectacle.
NR – And you nearly got through it without a bump.
SM – Yeah yeah I earned my money that night, Red took it upon himself to knock me out, lovely lad.
NR – Had you done a casket match before?
SM – No, no that was the first time.
NR – Did they have to go through the rules with you before? It seemed straightforward but if you had made a mistake it could have looked bad.
SM – Nobody went through the rules with us as such but me and Thomas weren’t to sure if we shut the casket door or if BT Gunn or Stevie would have to so we took it on ourselves to say to them separately that they would have to shut the door because if we were to shut it that’s assistance really, that’s the way we seen it, that was a great match.
NR – How did you avoid cracking up when the two of them were in and Stevie was trying to claw his way out?
SM – To be honest at the time I didn’t even think about it.
NR – You didn’t see it as funny?
SM – No not at the time, I couldn’t see Stevie’s face because I was standing at the side. The ideas and the spots they came up with were great was fantastic, there’s a reason why they are two of the best in that company.
NR – I think BT Gunn is as good as anyone in Europe.
SM – Oh he’s fantastic.
NR – I was talking about that to Wolfgang recently, he said according to Sabu BT has the hardest chops of anyone he has ever been in the ring with, Chris Benoit included.
SM – Well I’ve never taken one.
NR – You’ve took a chair to the head though.
SM – Yeah the good old days yeah that was unlucky/silly some might say.

Gunn didn't appear to hold back when he got the opportunity to hit Sean with a chair at a show over the Summer

Gunn didn’t appear to hold back when he got the opportunity to hit Sean with a chair at a show over the Summer

NR – So at any point did it dawn on you that there were 6200 people in this room?
SM – No it didn’t and ill tell you why because it looked great, it looked great then I was nervous backstage because if you’re not nervous you’re not enjoying it. Went out there, couldn’t hear the crowd and couldn’t hear anything. I had an ear piece in but it wasn’t because of that the place was so big like heat noise rises and with such a big space overhead it was over me. Some of the guys said they could hear the pops of the crowd but I couldn’t I could only hear the first couple of goes but I think that made it easier for me.
NR – You and Tom pretty much alternated the matches didn’t you?
SM – It was a bit weird the show, splitting it between us because I had the stairway to heaven match which was going to be a ladder match in the end and I was only there for the eliminations.

Sean and some of the ICW crew/wrestlers take in the setting before the show.

Sean and some of the ICW crew/wrestlers take in the setting before the show.

NR – It’s still five eliminations.
SM – Yeah but basically Dallas told us which ones he specifically wanted us to do then we divvied up the rest between us.
NR – So was it afterwards that it dawned on you how huge it was?
SM – It was when I went to work the next day and I was up the scaffolding on a roof!
NR – ICW is a bit of a funny one with most of the big shows on a Sunday then you got work on a Monday.
SM – It’s easier for fans and the guys than to get time off work. That was a total come down, totally deflated afterwards. I was knackered.
NR – The weather was terrible as well, we were one of the last trains back through Berwick and the boarders that wasn’t delayed due to the bad weather.
SM – I was just fucked man, I was knackered because I never got in ’til like 2:30am or 3am because I went to get some food with my friends, I wasn’t even drinking, I had the car but we just sat and talked for ages, it was a big deal, we had just done a historical event.
NR – Am I right in thinking that with the exception of the Angle versus Coffey match there was either you or a PBW wrester in every pretty much every match?
SM – Yeah, that was fantastic that was great. Without sounding cliché that was how it came full circle man to be refing Kenny and Aaron Echo, I’ve done their matches tons of times before but in that venue on that big a stage was fucking fantastic. Doing Kid Fite’s match, even if it was only for a few minutes [Kid Fite was eliminated after a few minutes], it’s comfort, it’s easier, see when it’s people like Kay Lee and Stevie and Kenny and Aaron and Fito it’s a lot easier. Not just with the PBW guys, it was something special just to be refing, Andy Wilde too.
NR – Kenny’s match was one of our favourites of the night, always got time for Kenny, that was one of the reasons we chose him to be part of our title tournament. I don’t know much about Andy, I hadn’t seen much of him before Fear and Loathing, he’s from your neck of the woods isn’t he?
SM – I think he’s originally English but he’s trained up here, stayed up here for years, he’s been really good to me. So even to be part of that match with him in it as well was special but even outside of PBW to be doing the Polo Promotion match was fantastic because I’m good friends with both of them. That was great, it was just a special night for friendships.
NR – What was your favourite moment of it? Was it wrestling, was it backstage?
SM – *LAUGHS* The chicken curry that I got for free backstage from the catering but I think everyone would say the catering. There was lots of talking points, I’m sure you have seen online. Well those were probably my favourite things, the points that people are peeing their pants over because that shows me how big a show it was. I’m sure you have seen on line and stuff.
NR – I’ve seen lots of different things, I saw some people, I heard people criticize people who criticized it but I’ve not seen anyone on my news feed who’s had the balls to criticize it.

Mick Foley was unable to attend Fear & Loathing but the WWE allowed former ICW performer Finn Balor as a replacement.

Mick Foley was unable to attend Fear & Loathing but the WWE allowed former ICW performer Finn Balor as a replacement.

NR – Did you speak to Finn Balor?
SM – Yeah I had met a few times before at BCW and ICW a few years ago. I’ve been involved in wrestling for about 3 or 4 years now, so just shy of that, a year less. I did a lot of PBW and SSW before I had even spoken to Dallas about ICW. I met Devitt at the Hydro but just briefly, he’s a busy guy, people want to talk to him. I think he watched most of the show backstage on a monitor.
NR – I just imagine people coming up to him all the time saying “Hi Finn”.
SM – Nah it was very professional backstage, we had monitors in every dressing room to watch the show. We normally have just the one big room for everyone but there were loads.
NR – Have you watched the show back?
SM – Yeah.
NR – What was your favourite bit watching as a fan?
SM – It’s hard to say, there was probably some that I didn’t see at the time because I was doing other stuff backstage. That’s a fucking hell that’s a tough one.
NR – I loved Wolfgang’s entrance.
SM – Yeah that was good but I was there for that. The thing I enjoyed the most after I had been laid out by Red was Jester turning on Galloway, what a payoff that was, the crowd just loved it and when he handed Finn Balor that thing, that was class the pop the crowd gave that was fucking unreal. That’s probably my favourite bit of the whole show.
NR – Is there anything that you would critique or you would change? Like I would have said the match order, I can understand why Kurt Angle would go on last but I think normally that would be the most important match which would be your title match but that would probably have been the eight man with the face finish.
SM – But it’s Kurt Angle…

Kurt Angle versus Joe Coffey headlined the show.

Kurt Angle versus Joe Coffey headlined the show.

NR – Yeah you can never criticise Kurt Angle being main event but all things being equal I would have changed that a bit.
SMJoe Coffey and Kurt Angle is always going to be main event.
Oh I need to say that Aaron Echo’s match was fantastic at the Hydro and his match the night before against Ravie Davie he showed great professionalism and for a while to do the wild card thing for the show for that match no one deserved it more than him I thought he was fantastic and the crowd realised that he’s a big deal man.I also need to say how brilliant Polo Promotions were against Team 3D. They were in there with one of the best tag teams of all time and they looked everybit their equals. I think they are one of the best tag teams around.
NR – Yeah. There’s not many better than either of them. I’ve seen more if Echo than Polo Promotions. Whenever I’ve seen him he’s pretty class, he just needs a little more of something to get a little more attention and a little more interest in him, I dunno what it would be, he doesn’t connect straight away the first time you see him, it takes a little longer if that makes sense? You know he’s still young but he’s only going to get better and he’s in an awesome place to get better.
SM – For anyone reading this, follow him on twitter and find out where he’s going to be (@AaronEcho_) and his Facebook page as well, find out what show’s he’s going to be at and if you’re nearby go see them man because the guy is fantastic, he could be the next big thing, I really do think that.
NR – Even bigger than Lou King Sharp?
SM – It’s not hard to be bigger than him he’s tiny!
NR – Moving on, can we talk a bit about Kid Fite, I’ve pitched an article to my editor about his importance in the wrestling scene.
SM – He’s one of the top promoters in Scotland, the talents he’s had at his show’s that have gone onto bigger and better things.
NR – It’s no coincidence that one of the biggest shows Fear and Loathing had a lot of his guys on it.
SM – Nah, like the photo says it all, know what I mean?

Premier British Wrestling alumni pose for a photo backstage at Fear & Loathing. (right to left) Sean, Stevie Boy, Kay Lee Ray, Davie Blaze, Kid Fite, Kenny Williams, Aaron Echo and Andy Wilde

Premier British Wrestling alumni pose for a photo backstage at Fear & Loathing.
(right to left) Sean, Stevie Boy, Kay Lee Ray, Davie Blaze, Kid Fite, Kenny Williams, Aaron Echo and Andy Wild

NR – And that doesn’t even have Noam Dar in it!
SM – Exactly, doesn’t have Noam in it…
NR – Did Stevie do something with SWA or something beforehand? Ross has told me he doesn’t like taking responsibility for Stevie because he had already started training.
SM – I’m led to believe he started training with SWA School but that’s just Ross being modest because he put Stevie on a platform and he gave Stevie the ball and Stevie started rolling it.
NR – Would he have put together the Bucky Boys?
SM – No that was Dallas, he just trained the two guys, I think that was Dallas’s idea, Davy Blaze was in a tag team tagging with another guy on family shows BCW and PBW he was tagging with another guy.
NR – Davy Blaze on a family show worries me.
SM – Oh he’s very good but see he’s a heel man he’s a big gnarly bastard to the weans but as a face he’s like a Batista type face guy character so Fito.
NR – It’s no coincidence he’s put on awesome shows at the last two Fear and Loathing.
SM – Yeah, it’s like Lou King Sharp doing so well, it’s a credit to him.
NR – And Donny T, someone recently shared his stuff with me and now he’s someone I watch out for.
SM – He’s a very important man, one of the top promoters in Britain and one of the top trainers in Britain, the talent speaks for itself, you cannot say nice enough stuff about him there’s just no words, I owe him a lot.

At this in the interview Sean and I were rudely disturbed by the appearance of Jack the Jobber and Adam Pacitti…

Jack the Jobber – Hi.
NR – Hi dude you ok?
JTJ – Yeah thanks.
SM – Alright Jack, how’s it going?
NR – Jack do you mind if I get a signature on this? (Calling Spots T shirt)
JTJ – Yeah go for it, have you got a pen.
SM – Look at that Jack mate 12000+ mate.
JTJ – What’s 12000+?
SM – how many view’s I got on my profile mate. Most viewed profile on Calling Spots.
NR – Jack’s hasn’t gone live yet. Jack’s will go on shortly and all of those Tumbler girls will go on.
SM – All your Grindr pals.
JTJ – Oh yeah them as well.
SM – For fucks sake Jack!
JTJ – What!?
SM – This is my interview get tae fuck, fucking hell, go away. Oh don’t you start go away, I’m doing and interview here.
NR – Do you mind if I get a signature from you please Adam…
SM – For fucks sake, I’m doing an interview here and you fucking pricks are coming in here and taking all the glory. Look at that Adam 12000+ mate. Know what that is? That’s the most viewed profile on Calling Spots, Sean McLaughlin 12000+, that’s how many views my profile got.
NRNoam Dar’s had 2000, somehow. Sean’s got more friends.
Adam Pacitti – Why? No offence.
SM – Look at me. You know what it’s all the shooting I do on Twitter, all the trolling I do on Twitter people want to read about it, that’s what it is mate. Don’t go running to Jack now and cry about it. You get in that gym Pacitti.
AP – Fuck you!

Knowing that Sean McLaughlin is not a man to be messed with Jack and Adam quickly scurried off.

NR – I knew him as a wrestler and I had looked at his career.
SM – Fito is a king.
NR – I met him at 5 star and Ross [Kid Fite’s real name] is awesome he’s going to get me a cruiserweight DVD to review. Whenever I message him he always comes straight back to me.
SM – That’s the businessman in him.
NR – As a worker he’s class, as a promoter he’s also class and as a trainer he’s probably better than worker and promoter so he’s outstanding.
SM – I would agree with that, he’s the package mate, he’s good, he’s grand, he’s a good guy, he’s a nice guy to have as a friend as well.
NR – I wouldn’t want to get on the wrong side of him, I know when he’s in the ring he’s always in character but he looks scary as fuck.
SM – Aye just like a thug!
NR – I mean Kid Fite suits him so well.
SM – I know.

Sean and I continued to chat about Kid Fite and this, along with quotes from his other PBE alumni and Kid Fite’s peers will be included in our article on the man in Calling Spots #23.

Sean and his trainer/mentor/friend Kid Fite

Sean and his trainer/mentor/friend Kid Fite

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